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  Enough Talk, Let's Kick Ass

  by DreamMaster in

  1. jw
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  oh my god!!!!.

  my wife just took me to a site about jw women being molested and abused and not only wasn't anyone prosecuted, those bastards were allowed to continue raping these innocent children under the protection of the gb.

  i was not raised a jw so when i hear something like this it ignites in me an anger that you can not begin to imagine.

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  DM,
  I don't think your words are harsh in any way. I fully understand your anger. I am so sorry for what happened to your wife. Just out of curiosity, has she had counseling? This helped me tremendously. I too was raped at the age of 17 by one of the annoited. Of course it was covered up, and I was the one who had the public humiliation of being publicly reproved. Who knows how many other little innocent girls he affected over the years because his outrageous sin was covered over. I say go for it.
  Ladonna,
  Just one more disgusting mark against that religion. I am so sorry to hear of what happened to you. Thank God I didn't get pregnant. I hope your life is better now. Did you decide to go into the therapy field because of what happened to you?
  TW
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  Is this Completely Apostate

  by redline in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just happened on this place a few days ago, and thought i would stop in to see what it was all about.

  it claims to be a jehovah's witness forum, which it is not.. dont want to come here and point fingers, as i am sure there are some good people in here, just seems the bad have followed the good.

  i guess in reality thats always the case, but hey, what else would these people do if they couldn't wage their little war on the truth.

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  Redline,
  I hope you are still here and reading!! First of I want to thank you for being here and changing from your beginning thoughts somewhat! I think by now you have recognized that there are some very good and caring people here, regardless of their religous leaning.
  There have been so many excellent things said here that I am not even sure I can add anything of value.
  I don't want to bore you but I think it is important for you to know a little of my background simply to give some credence to what I am about to say. I was born into the truth. Most of my immediate and extended family are still in it. My father has been pioneering for over forty years. My mother pioneered for several years until my siblings and I started coming along. She is pioneering again for several years since all have left the nest. I was well trained in the truth and pioneered regularly for over eight years and auxiliary pioneered on a regular basis for many more. I loved the concept of being able to help people and to save lives. I made it my business to be really good at teaching and as a result quite a few people are JW's.
  I married a Bethelite. We pioneered together. For almost seventeen years he abused me very badly. During those years he was a MS, Elder, and pioneer. When he left me in September of 1997, we lived behind the KH. The elders kicked me out. Let me re-emphasize, he left me. For many years I had put up with a variety of very unscriptural things from my husband and the elders and some of the other publishers. When I was seventeen I was molested by one of the annoited, he was privately reproved, I was publicly reproved. Even after all these things, and believe me these are only a few, I hung on.
  But one day I started thinking about John 13:35. This is taught to be one of the identifying marks of true Christianity. What would you use as a comparison to this scripture to judge whether or not a religion is true? It would have to be the people. There really couldn't be any other comparison.
  So after thiry-eight year of being an active witness, I made the hardest decision of my life. Having everything that I dearly believed in taken away from me and losing my family in addition to that.
  Once you look at that scripture and make an unbiased examination of the facts, there really is no going back. Only then did I start seeing many other things that did not fit Bible teaching. And do not think that this was a purposeful fault finding mission. Every single thing I learned came straight from the literature of the Witnesses, and every single fact hurt me deeply.
  So dear friend, think hard about learning. Do not be afraid.
  If you decide continuing to be a witness is for you, then so be it. If not know that you will not be alone. Please, think for yourself, let your heart be your guide!!
  TW
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  "Patterson" Pictures

  by ZazuWitts in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since registering with this forum, i have heard many mention the patterson complex.

  having been 'out' since pre-1975, this facility was news to me.

  came across this link, and thought i would share it with other.

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  thinkers wife

  Thanks ZazuWitts,
  I am going to go look at the pics where my brother and his wife live now!!
  No JW,
  I think the hotel you are referring to may be the Bossert (sp.?)
  I was there, but didn't pay much attention to the roof line, don't know if there are gargoyles up there or not.
  TW
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  HELLO? HELLO? "ALL" SIGN IN???????

  by waiting in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  simon did away with the sex forum - so i must take the tradional route and post under "make new friends.

  " how mundane!.

  fyi ---- for all of us, please take the time to write a sentence or two about yourselves, and encourage new ones to do the same.

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  thinkers wife

  Welcome to the board Freddi, Dins, and Cautious. Always able to hear echoes of my own thoughts in the new one's who post here!!
  Enjoy your stay!!!!
  TW
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  Hello, I'm Back and I want a new friend!!!!!!!

  by discombobulatedgirl in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i havn't posted in awhile so i thought i ould post because i want to make ne friends and plus the chat room is empty and that is weird.

  i'm good.

  lots of school work and stuff since i only have 7 days of school lets for the year.

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  DC,
  Thanks for the update. Hope you have lots of good things planned for your summer!!!!!
  TW
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  I'm a new study, unsure a little uncertain. Help??

  by Meow921 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently started doing some studying of jehovahs witnesses, and i find most everything so logical, and the people involved have been so nice to me.

  i'm 30, and currently am not associated with any denomination.. what i don't understand is how the word "cross" got translated into the bible if it's not right.

  aren't we supposed to believe the bible?.

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  Katherine,
  There has been much excellent advice given to you on this thread. You would do very well to heed it.
  I was born and raised as one of JW's. I did what they call disassociating myself in June of 2000. There are a lot of factors involved. But some of the salient points right now are: My parents talk to me only if I call them on the telephone, they have no desire to meet my wonderful husband (whom I married in June of 2000) he is not and never has been one of JW's. And he has only shown them the greatest kindness on the telephone and through the mail. Two of my brothers, baptized Witnesses refuse to speak to me. This has alienated me from seeing my only two nephews. One is three and the other was born last Novemeber, hence I have never seen him or expect that I will. All of my former friends who are JW's, some of whom I actually studied with and introduced to being JW's, will not speak to me.
  This is all as a result of me voluntarily telling the elders through a letter that I no longer wanted to be known as one of JW's. My reason for taking this action is that JW's tout John 13:35 as being an identifying mark of true Christianity. After many years of being a very active JW I decisively felt that they did not display this self-proclaimed quality.
  After marrying my husband, he did extensive research on the history and teachings of JW's and came up with a lot of discrepancies in their doctrine. Also after having read some independent list of things that identify a cult, I could truly say that the Witness religion falls into this category.
  I am not asking you to accept my opinion as fact in any way. I am just strongly urging you to look into their history and doctrine and decide for yourself. Because if you decide to go with being a baptized Witness it will irrevocably change your life.
  TW
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  CyberSex

  by DreamMaster in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  cybersex: real or fantasy!.

  i would like to tell you good people a story and when i'm finished i would appreciate your honest opinion as i know you wouldn't give me anything less.

  my wife and i have been fighting about a situation which recently arose in our home.

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  DM,
  It sounds very real to me. And I am a woman, obvious by my name.
  Have you considered marriage counseling? This seems to be the only recourse at this juncture, if you are interested (and she) in saving the marriage.
  I know of a man whoes wife engaged in this sort of thing. They are divorced. As even though it started with cyber sex, it led to some real encounters.
  Just out of curiosity, are either of you JW's?
  TW
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  Help with sister who's considering joining the WTS

  by kitty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been reading this board for a couple of weeks now.

  because of it, i've ordered and received "crisis of conscience" and have begun to read it.

  i've also done many searches about jehovah's witnesses, the watchtower society, disfellowshipping, etc.

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  Kitty,
  I only read your post briefly. Patience and concern are really the key.
  But did you show her the history of JW's? The inconsistencies with actual documented historical time lines? The changes in their own doctrines?
  Also their convoluted teachings and prophecies on the time of the end? How about the Pyramid teachings that started with Russell and then later was changed by Rutherford, I think?
  How about the lifestyles of the past leaders? There is a ton of information on the internet to back these things up.
  What about the changes on blood policy. Purchasing and reading Crises of Conscience, by Ray Franz should give you plenty of documented ammunition, straight from their own archives.
  I hope you are successful and wish you luck.
  Also is this person going through any personal crises', many times this religion appeals to needy people. She may need counseling rather than a cultish religion in her life!!
  TW
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  DON ADAMS BIOGRAPHY

  by bj in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what do you know about the new president of the wts, don adams?

  (all anecdotes needed)

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  thinkers wife

  Gosh,
  Do I feel like a mushroom!!! I didn't even know who the new president was. Is this Don Adams one of the annoited? How old is he.
  The name is familiar, but I know nothing about him.
  TW
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  Newcomer - Old hand retiring from JW's

  by Celtic in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello to onen hag oll (one and all).. my name is mark from the westcountry of the british isles, kernow (cornwall) to be precise, very, very rugged and magical celtic country full of myth, legends and ancient magic.. i was brought up within the borgy bogie balderdash, 3rd generation, father, wt overseer and local and regional assembly, convention organiser.

  my parents are still both in as well as my older sister and her family.

  i was disfellowshipped in april 1995 for anger and swearing.. the journey since has been a tour of magic and mystery, in search of healing and self-belief and empowerment enabling.. i work in community regeneration issues, especially social exclusion and am a full member of independent uk government 'think tank' the community action network (can) www.can-online.org.uk.

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  thinkers wife

  Welcome to the board Celtic. Thats two new ways of getting rid of someone in the Borg you don't like that I have read just today. Reviling and now anger and swearing! LOL
  Hope to hear more from you!!
  TW